Went to a Senior Center here in Las Vegas, and tacked on the door was a sign " NO GUNS ALLOWED" Now I know MOST senior citizens are not packing weapons, but some of us are. I don't expect to be accosted at a senior center, but if I were, and knowing I have a gun, but that its in my car, and of no help to me is very disheartning.
When I asked why the sign, on the door, I was told "It's the State Law". I asked the Parks & Recreation department about it, they said " I think it's a State Law". They said "contact the Govenors office, I did, they could not tell me the law. Re-contatced the Parks and recreation department, they said "contact the City Attorney's Office" I did, they passed me on to the City Clerks Office, who has no idea where the "LAW" came from.
I think someone just posted a sign because they are afraid someomne my have a gun. Anyone else noticed a
Concealed does mean out of sight. I've been carrying concealed since I entered law enforcement at 21 years of age. That was 45 years ago and I have never had a problem keeping it concealed. It does cause me to be aware of my choices of attire and what type of firearm is most easily concealed with whatever it is I am going to wear. I avoid the tight fitting sexy styles. (Okay, I admit it, at my age I wouldn't be wearing those styles even if I wasn't carrying.)
In WA, the businesses can be posted "No Guns Allowed" by the owners, by state law (posting has to be obvious). If posted, it is illegal to have a concealed weapon on your person within the establishment. Thank goodness on the right side of the state, we have few businesses who post.
In TN, they have specifications regarding place, size, and language of a weapons ban which a business wishes to have in effect on their premises.
Our State even allow firearms inside state parks.
When I encounter a business that has such a ban posted, I boycott them.
So far, this keeps me out of only one restaurant in Clarksville, and one movie theater in Clarksville.
Walmart, universally, allows CCW, but if someone is reported as having their gun visible, they will be asked to either conceal it better or leave the store.
Question; is this senior center a government or a private facility?
If private, that is their right.
If government, you should continue the fight to get the sign removed.
I believe that the Senior Center is run by the City. They are the ones we pay the annual fee to. I, like you have a CCW, and believe that a weapon should stay concealed, but it just grips my bottom to see an establishment "advertise" that the area is "gun free". (Makes easy pickings for would-be robbers, or someone that wants to do harm.) If they don't know if someone is armed, they just may skip that establishment.
I believe that the Senior Center is run by the City. They are the ones we pay the annual fee to. I, like you have a CCW, and believe that a weapon should stay concealed, but it just grips my bottom to see an establishment "advertise" that the area is "gun free". (Makes easy pickings for would-be robbers, or someone that wants to do harm.) If they don't know if someone is armed, they just may skip that establishment.
I'm totally with you, Tom. Where do most of the highly-publicized mass-shootings occur? Yep, "Gun-Free Zones" like Sandy Hook Elementary School and the Oklahoma movie theater that had a "No Guns" sign displayed. The movie theater shooter (James Holmes) reportedly chose that particular theater specifically because of the sign, thereby minimizing the probability that he would be stopped during his rampage.
I find it difficult to believe that the Libs are really dumb enough (well ... some of them may be) to actually believe "Gun Free Zones" are "Safe Zones". Rather, I think, they're just pushing their anti-gun ideology.
Here in NH the violent crime rate is low, gun ownership is high, and CCW permits are easily obtained by law-abiding citizens. I think the three are related.
An old thread but thought I'd add my 2C. First, I have a CC permit and carry virtually 100% of the time when going out. I also shoot competitively and am an NRA Range Safety Officer. I live in KY. and for the most part this is a good pro 2nd Amendment state. Having said that, here in KY. a business has the right to prohibit firearms from coming into their establishment. As already stated (in a different way) and to my mind, the business may as well put up another sign that reads:" don't worry about getting shot while armed robbing us, nobody in here will have a firearm".
Although I don't like a business making themselves "gun free", I believe any business has every right to prohibit firearms from coming into their establishment just as an individual has the right to do the same at his/her home. Fortunately most businesses here are 2nd amendment friendly and don't have a problem with concealed carry. The ones that don't allow concealed carry, I won't do business with. A bank my wife used to work for had one of those signs prohibiting firearms inside. They lost enough accounts from it that, after awhile, that sign disappeared.
My hubby and I are firearm collectors, reloaders, and target shooters, have our CWPs; and I, too, am a certified NRA RSO. We live in Florida and also carry virtually 100% of the time. Any business has the right to post and/or implement any rules they desire; it is up to you whether to patronize that business. Personally, I attempt to stay out/away of GUN FREE ZONES as much as possible. If one does carry concealed - who is the wiser if a situation arises; you may save lives (not that I would encourage the breaking of any laws/rules).
And I have found many seniors very capable to handle weapons if they so choose to do so...
This is off the original purpose of this thread but KBroz, I'm not sure at what point in life a person becomes a senior but I'll put it at 50 only because that other senior organization started sending me "stuff" when I turned 50... 15 years ago! I shoot Steel Challenge but prefer shooting IDPA with the latter requiring a lot of movement with occasional bending and kneeling. There are all age groups in IDPA (Steel Challenge too) and as you say many of those seniors are extremely capable particularly those that have been shooting most of their lives. Recently I happened to be on a squad of shooters at an IDPA match with another senior that bought his first pistol ever just a few months ago. No, he's not going to win any matches anytime soon but after seeing him shoot, I was pretty much amazed that he had advanced so far in such a short time. That "can't teach an old dog new tricks" just doesn't apply. I might add he took his "doesn't like guns" better half out to the range to shoot and guess what, she ended up enjoying it.
